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Have Heart "Final Show" CD/LP/DVD
October 19, 2009 08:04PM
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straight from b9:

"Anthony "Wrench" Moreschi and his film crew documented Have Heart's set with 5 camera angles, and Jay Maas of Defeater / "Getaway Studios" recorded the sound for a CD/LP/DVD release in 2010 on B9!"

get stoked on that!

it's great for australians like me who couldn't go to the show itself.

- phoenix.
Re: Have Heart "Final Show" CD/LP/DVD
October 19, 2009 08:07PM
excited for this. my attempts to see this band one last time were a huge mess. i missed 3 shows (including the final one) due to being broke and having found a new job. i've been really bummed about it.
Re: Have Heart "Final Show" CD/LP/DVD
October 19, 2009 08:14PM
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yeah man, that's no good at all.

i missed them when they came out here too, never forgive myself for it.

but this release will be a positive nonetheless!

- phoenix.
Re: Have Heart "Final Show" CD/LP/DVD
October 19, 2009 11:51PM
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wait how much money does bridge nine really need?
Re: Have Heart "Final Show" CD/LP/DVD
October 20, 2009 01:04AM
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i don't really see it in that way.

it's a unique opportunity to document the final show of a staple hardcore band.

any label would've done this if they had have heart on their roster.

- phoenix.
Re: Have Heart "Final Show" CD/LP/DVD
October 20, 2009 01:48AM
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"staple" so many of bands have so much more to say, dont get me wrong I liked have hearts second album, I just dont see them as being all that important. Bane is the band i'd toss in that staple position. I also do not agree with the guns up! dvd either.
Re: Have Heart "Final Show" CD/LP/DVD
October 20, 2009 02:12AM
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what you're saying is true.

bane is a band I also rate very highly, above have heart.

I guess I was a little over-indulgent saying they were "staple", but I also think the DVD/CD/LP is a good option for a great deal of fans who missed out on seeing the band not only in their final run, but period.

the print/shirt deal they recently had was more of a demonstration of their greed than this is.

- phoenix.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/20/2009 02:16AM by phoenixinflight.
Re: Have Heart "Final Show" CD/LP/DVD
October 20, 2009 02:21AM
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i also agree with the print thing. I will problly get the dvd because I was only able to go to the first of the 2 shows. but I dunno about the LP i dont like how b9 does/charges for lps.
Re: Have Heart "Final Show" CD/LP/DVD
October 20, 2009 03:40AM
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the vinyl there isn't too bad - they generally charge about $1-2 more than DW, if it's a new release, but shipping is generally the same.

the thing I love the most b9 is the shirts.

I like the bandsalot more on DW, but the fit of the b9 pre-order/normal shirts are much better, which is why the majority of my shirts are from there, haha.

- phoenix.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/20/2009 03:41AM by phoenixinflight.
Re: Have Heart "Final Show" CD/LP/DVD
October 20, 2009 08:17AM
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thats weird because b9 mediums never fit me at all. I had two of the cruel hand tourist wolf shit in medium, different color cause I love wolves and both were entirely different fits. also my ceremony medium did not for well at all either haha. but my Paint it black does fit semi well. oh well to each his own. hey where are you from anyway
Re: Have Heart "Final Show" CD/LP/DVD
October 20, 2009 01:59PM
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stoked.... why not record and put out a dvd of the last show?
remember the champipn dvd..stunning!
Re: Have Heart "Final Show" CD/LP/DVD
October 20, 2009 02:24PM
i don't think it's fair to take away the importance that have heart was to hardcore. just because you didn't care for their music doesn't mean that thousands of others didn't. the band brought so many new people into the fold and that's awesome to me. i had the pleasure to see this band many times, but it sucked not being able to see them on their last tour. i'm very happy that they're doing this dvd/record.

i could give a fuck less if someone sees this as a money grab or greedy. it's part of something that means a lot to me and tons of other people. i'll gladly give them my money for this.
Re: Have Heart "Final Show" CD/LP/DVD
October 20, 2009 02:32PM
I'm excited to see the dvd
Loved seeing them live and can't wait to see how crazy it was for the final show
Re: Have Heart "Final Show" CD/LP/DVD
October 20, 2009 03:52PM
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Having seen the pictures and stories from people who went, would like to see this when it comes out. Glad l got to see them at gahc before they finished up.
Re: Have Heart "Final Show" CD/LP/DVD
October 20, 2009 03:56PM
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the fact that people on here are trying to slam b9 on this dvd is hilarious. in the first week it'll leak and most kids will download it and at 15 bucks a pop they might sell 4 or 500 copies at the very most, what is that like a little over 700 bucks? if they had 5 camera operators who get paid a minimum of 100 bucks for operating which doesn't even include camera rental, tapes. not to mention an editor who probably charged 600-800 bucks to edit this then they're probably losing money on this. oh yeah and i dont even know what the director charged on this but it was probably more than all the camera operators combined. and you've still got to add up dvd pressing, layout charges, etc. i mean if you think that b9 is profiting off hardcore kids then you're having a laugh. i work in this industry every day so i understand what it costs to make a dvd, do a live shoot and all the costs with it. the total costs of making this dvd will probably be up in the mid $2,000 range and the profits probably wont break a grand. if anything b9 is doing the fans a favor by going in the hole on this one. so before you start running your "diy" mouth about a label then maybe stop and think on their end for once.
Re: Have Heart "Final Show" CD/LP/DVD
October 20, 2009 06:05PM
i also read in an interview that have heart was putting out a final 7" at somepoint. dont know if that went ahead?

- alex
Re: Have Heart "Final Show" CD/LP/DVD
October 20, 2009 10:50PM
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threexs Wrote:
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> i don't think it's fair to take away the
> importance that have heart was to hardcore. just
> because you didn't care for their music doesn't
> mean that thousands of others didn't. the band
> brought so many new people into the fold and
> that's awesome to me. i had the pleasure to see
> this band many times, but it sucked not being able
> to see them on their last tour. i'm very happy
> that they're doing this dvd/record.
>
> i could give a fuck less if someone sees this as a
> money grab or greedy. it's part of something that
> means a lot to me and tons of other people. i'll
> gladly give them my money for this.


thankyou, also i'm from australia.

- phoenix.
Re: Have Heart "Final Show" CD/LP/DVD
October 20, 2009 10:51PM
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p.s - hope the 7" goes ahead.

- phoenix.
Re: Have Heart "Final Show" CD/LP/DVD
October 28, 2009 01:25AM
I wasn't allowed to film the show because my videos are "too good" and they said they were afraid I would "hurt their DVD sales."

How often do you hear someone tell an amateur photographer, "you can't take pictures at this show because you post your pictures online and that will hurt our poster sales"? People will still buy a tangible, high quality poster just as people will buy a tangible, professionally produced DVD--regardless if an amateur films it as well.

Bridge Nine told me it's the same reason they don't film bands recording their new albums. They don't want any audio to leak because if people see/hear a short clip of the album, they won't go out and buy it when it officially comes out. The simile that filming a band's live show (a public event) is akin to filming them recording an album (privately/for the purpose of releasing an album) is interesting, but a tenuous one at best (example: that teaser clip of Converge in the studio only made me more stoked on the final product, to be honest.)

Imposing limitations on a scene founded upon a DIY ethic (in particular, denying someone because they are "too good"winking smiley is depressing and it spits in the face of progress.

What irks me is that they allowed a myriad of photographers to shoot the show: some who use their pictures commercially and some who share their stuff for free. Online video documentation of hardcore is still in its infancy, but their reasoning for denying me--which is a seldom occurrence--sets a terrible precedent. I have no qualms with them wanting to release a DVD for the band. But the fact of the matter is that they are taking something public (in this case, a showcase of bands) and are artificially creating hype by hording the footage until the pressure cooker says it's time to release it.

I spend way too much of my time thinking about the future of online video and all of this has raised some questions for me. Who has the authority to determine what footage can be seen and what can't be seen? I share all of my videos in their entirety because a song or band that means little to me may mean something to someone else. Who am I to say certain footage can't be seen?

There was poor mismanagement at Edge Day and several hundred people, all of whom had preordered tickets, were stuck in line and missed 5-6 of the 9 bands. Why should they have to wait 4 months and pay for a DVD that will undoubtedly have little footage of the bands they missed? Obviously cuts must be made if a tangible DVD is being produced; but this is exactly why online video is viable and should be embraced and not seen as some sort of threat to sales. Video should be made available in its entirety but hey, that's just my personal opinion.


Support DIY....Unless it threatens your sales.


-- Two of my several hundred cents worth of thoughts on this issue.


PS: Deathwish > Bridge Nine



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/28/2009 01:41AM by hate5six.
DK
Re: Have Heart "Final Show" CD/LP/DVD
October 28, 2009 01:59AM
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hate5six Wrote:
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> I wasn't allowed to film the show because my
> videos are "too good" and they said they were
> afraid I would "hurt their DVD sales."
>
> How often do you hear someone tell an amateur
> photographer, "you can't take pictures at this
> show because you post your pictures online and
> that will hurt our poster sales"? People will
> still buy a tangible, high quality poster just as
> people will buy a tangible, professionally
> produced DVD--regardless if an amateur films it as
> well.
>
> Bridge Nine told me it's the same reason they
> don't film bands recording their new albums. They
> don't want any audio to leak because if people
> see/hear a short clip of the album, they won't go
> out and buy it when it officially comes out. The
> simile that filming a band's live show (a public
> event) is akin to filming them recording an album
> (privately/for the purpose of releasing an album)
> is interesting, but a tenuous one at best
> (example: that teaser clip of Converge in the
> studio only made me more stoked on the final
> product, to be honest.)
>
> Imposing limitations on a scene founded upon a DIY
> ethic (in particular, denying someone because they
> are "too good"winking smiley is depressing and it spits in the
> face of progress.
>
> What irks me is that they allowed a myriad of
> photographers to shoot the show: some who use
> their pictures commercially and some who share
> their stuff for free. Online video documentation
> of hardcore is still in its infancy, but their
> reasoning for denying me--which is a seldom
> occurrence--sets a terrible precedent. I have no
> qualms with them wanting to release a DVD for the
> band. But the fact of the matter is that they are
> taking something public (in this case, a showcase
> of bands) and are artificially creating hype by
> hording the footage until the pressure cooker says
> it's time to release it.
>
> I spend way too much of my time thinking about the
> future of online video and all of this has raised
> some questions for me. Who has the authority to
> determine what footage can be seen and what can't
> be seen? I share all of my videos in their
> entirety because a song or band that means little
> to me may mean something to someone else. Who am
> I to say certain footage can't be seen?
>
> There was poor mismanagement at Edge Day and
> several hundred people, all of whom had preordered
> tickets, were stuck in line and missed 5-6 of the
> 9 bands. Why should they have to wait 4 months
> and pay for a DVD that will undoubtedly have
> little footage of the bands they missed?
> Obviously cuts must be made if a tangible DVD is
> being produced; but this is exactly why online
> video is viable and should be embraced and not
> seen as some sort of threat to sales. Video
> should be made available in its entirety but hey,
> that's just my personal opinion.
>
>
> Support DIY....Unless it threatens your sales.
>
>
> -- Two of my several hundred cents worth of
> thoughts on this issue.
>
>
> PS: Deathwish > Bridge Nine

The beautiful, contradictory mixture of commercialism and hardcore. Bridge Nine does it best of all.

-DK
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